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September 26, 2005
God Vs. Darwin

This Article is but one of many explaining the taking of a case to court to keep "Creationism", or as it is now called- "Intelligent Design" out of the public schools as a part of science curriculum. I say, "Hell Yes!".... Keep it out of my child's school.
Firstly- I am all about Darwin. Proof is a real convincing argument. Those who can't buy into the "theory" of evolution must seriously think that earthquakes are from God getting angry, not tectonic plates shifting.... as tectonics is also still dubbed a "theory". Creationism just doesn't make sense. Some "greater being" made it all happen, and somehow put the mysteries of fossils and carbon dated evidence here...for what? To test our faith? To confuse us? All the science is wrong on dates from millions of years ago, and all the things on the earth, nay in the universe, are no more than a few thousand years old. Never mind the fact that it takes millions of years for the light from some stars to get to us at all for us to see it. (Genesis tells us that in the beginning there was NOTHING- so the whole of everything was created in the span of a week, right?) The speed of light, and red shift must therefore be a galactic physics fuck up too? It doesn't add up... It doesn't belong on the blackboard of a public school.
I do not want a school teacher, an employee of the state, telling my son of how some greater being created the earth in seven days, not accounting for the scientific evidence of carbon dating, fossilization, and geologic proof. If I thought it was something for my son to believe in, I would teach him these things at home- since it deals with that whole "greater being" thing. I would prefer to tell him about God creating the universe using Thomas Aquinas' argument that there can not be an "infinite regression of causes".
The class room is certainly not the forum for a story told thousands of years ago by men who didn't know what an atom or microbe was, trying to explain the existence of life on our world... Ideas like "millions of years" back then could get you killed. The whole history of religion exposes the general flaw in the logic of "Intelligent Design". If it was a science, people wouldn't have been ostracized or stoned to death for nay saying it.
I may hate most of what the ACLU stands for, but I will have to align myself behind them on this one.... at least until someone digs up the fossil of God's fingernail, and actually offers some intelligent and testable proof. Until then, keep it out of my kid's classroom. I certainly hope it won't be an issue in a DoDds school- the military should be all about church and state separation, right?
Posted by TheFreud at September 26, 2005 10:59 AM
Comments
Personally, I favor the theory of intelligent falling.
Posted by: Placebo at September 26, 2005 11:05 PM
When they offer an Intelligent design argument, just say.
"I KNOW God created Man. The method he used is called Evolution."
Posted by: The Small Town Hick at September 27, 2005 3:43 AM
Just for your info, there is evidence of evolution occuring within a species, but no evidence (let alone proof) that one species has/can/will evolve into another. That's why its called a theory.
Posted by: DennyK at September 28, 2005 12:53 AM
I've seen a lot of this lately. I'm not arguing one way or another. I will, however, say that the theory of intelligent design says that everything is so complex and precise that something greater must have made it--not that "god" made things, or that he put fossils on the planet to test faith, or anything at all having to do with the bible.
Posted by: storm at September 28, 2005 7:54 AM
I have no problem with this theroy being taught, as long as it doesn't replace what else is being taught.
Teach it as another view as opposed to fact. But I don't agree with forcing teachers to teach it
Posted by: Ayannali at September 28, 2005 5:00 PM
Very sensible arguments you have here. I agree that the scientific proof supporting Darwin's theory needs to be taught and that until they can prove otherwise, leave it alone. Does the Bible mention anything about dinosaurs?
Posted by: MongaKim at September 29, 2005 4:02 PM
Actually, "creationism" and "intelligent design" aren't the same ideas. "Creationism" has no support within the scientific community, so far as I know. But the notion of "intelligent design" is accepted by some scientists, whether they have a theistic view of the world or not.
In addition, only a small percentage of Christians are creationists. Most Christians will affirm that God created the universe, of course. But such an affirmation doesn't in any way say what the mechanism by God created might have been.
Posted by: Mark Daniels at September 29, 2005 8:03 PM
There is actually some pretty clear evidence against Darwin's theory of evolution. I can't believe you want your kids taught things that just aren't true.
Let's look at Darwin's Score card:
Origin of Species is a book that practically everyone has heard of. Most people think they know what it says. Few people have actually read it. You have heard of Origin of Species, haven’t you? You know what it says, don’t you? Have you read it? See what we mean?
One would think that Origin of Species would be required reading for every modern introductory biology class. It isn’t. As we examine it in detail, you will see why it isn’t. Darwin got it mostly wrong. If biology students read Origin of Species, the teacher would have to spend most of every lecture telling the students that what they read isn’t true.
We haven’t talked much about the errors in Darwin’s Origin of Species in previous newsletters because it is an old, out-dated book, full of errors well-known to modern science. Therefore, evolutionists might claim that we are taking cheap shots at early theories that evolutionists no longer believe. But, according to the Field Museum, “Darwin got it (mostly) right.” That makes Darwin’s Origin of Species fair game. Since they have made the claim that Darwin was mostly right, it is appropriate to ask, “Just how right was Darwin?”
We and the museum apparently agree that Darwin got some things right and some things wrong. The sticking point is the word “mostly”. That is a subjective term that is difficult to quantify. So, let us examine what Darwin wrote, and you can decide whether Darwin was mostly right or not.
More individuals are born than can possibly survive. 1
Darwin observed that not every creature that is born lives long enough to reproduce after its kind. Certainly, he got that right. Ask a mathematician how many rabbits there would be on the Earth after 1,000 years, starting with a single pair, if all survived to maturity. Worse yet, imagine how many mosquitoes would be in the world today if none of them were eaten by fish or birds. The world is not overrun with rabbits and mosquitoes because not all of them survive long enough to reproduce.
Posted by: Hurricane Bob at September 30, 2005 8:12 AM
I can't believe you want your kids taught something that can not be true. Let's look at Darwin's scorecard.
Origin of Species is a book that practically everyone has heard of. Most people think they know what it says. Few people have actually read it. You have heard of Origin of Species, haven’t you? You know what it says, don’t you? Have you read it? See what we mean?
One would think that Origin of Species would be required reading for every modern introductory biology class. It isn’t. As we examine it in detail, you will see why it isn’t. Darwin got it mostly wrong. If biology students read Origin of Species, the teacher would have to spend most of every lecture telling the students that what they read isn’t true.
We haven’t talked much about the errors in Darwin’s Origin of Species in previous newsletters because it is an old, out-dated book, full of errors well-known to modern science. Therefore, evolutionists might claim that we are taking cheap shots at early theories that evolutionists no longer believe. But, according to the Field Museum, “Darwin got it (mostly) right.” That makes Darwin’s Origin of Species fair game. Since they have made the claim that Darwin was mostly right, it is appropriate to ask, “Just how right was Darwin?”
Posted by: hurricane bob at September 30, 2005 8:17 AM